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Re: Miami Jacobs Career College LPN program.
I am a student at Miami Jacobs, 3rd quarter. I would consider another college if I were you. Tuition is in excess of $20,000. In my opinion the quality of instructors (poor), curriculum (poor) and clinicals (poor). I realized this shortly after I began, but I could not wait for an opening at another school. I had become unemployed and wanted to complete a LPN program before my unemployment ran out. None of my credits would transfer to another school so I’m stuck. I hope I get enough from the program to pass n-clex, I am pulling straight A’s but I have a feeling I will need more than that. The school does use ATI which I feel will help me get through the N-clex. Here’s an example of how one of my classes went:
Nutrition 1.75 hours 1 day a week:
Week 1 – instructor went over expectations for the quarter.
Week 2- no class the instructor forgot we had a class.
Week 3-Watched Super Size me.
Week 4- Watched the 2nd part of Super Size me. Instructor handed out a cross word puzzle.
Week 5- Instructor collected the cross word puzzle, skimmed over a few chapters, handed out another cross word puzzle.
Week 6- Changed instructors we sat like 3rd graders, each reading a paragraph form a chapter, collected crossword puzzle. Assigned a case study.
Week 7- Sat like 3rd graders, again reading a paragraph from a chapter. Instructor walked by to see if we did our homework, assigned another case study, told us what the final would cover.
Week 8- Took an ATI assement.
Week 9- Took final
This class cost me over a thousand dollars. I learned nothing new, but got an A. The clinicals have all been at Nursing Homes, I think we will get 1 day at an OB office, A Peds office, and I’m not sure what they will do for the MRDD rotation. As far as IV therapy we have to have 1 successful stick, and that can be in a dummy arm. But that combined with the class you take is enough to get your IV certification.
PLEASE THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE STARTING THEIR PROGRAM, THEY ARE ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!
PLEASE look elswhere for you schooling. In the Court Reporting program the instructors are almost all gone, including the dean of 15 years. There is no one on one as promised. You are left to do it all yourself and you can get that online for a lot less money. They let me audit a class since there was not one at my level and still charged me tuition. I am trying to file a complaint with FAFSA. There are just so many other qualified schools dont waste your time and money here.
I am currently in the court reporting program at Miami Jacobs. I would not recommend this program at this school to anyone. They have recently changed the classes from a full 12 week quarter to two six-week block classes. This does not work well with a steno class. Essentially, if you do not pass your speed test, you fail. All the other required work does not factor into your grade, so it is pointless to do any of it until after you pass a speed test. As anyone in court reporting knows, you can be very close to passing a speed test and because of the way they are graded, you can fail with a 94%. This is a terrible school and I wish I had an alternative, but since the credits do not transfer I am stuck here.
They care nothing about you, they just say they do…it’s all about the money. The campus director will lie to you and take your money.
Got sucked into the cattle-call as well. I was searching for work after a layoff, raising a family of four on little unemployment, desperate for some kind of cure. The recruiters are great at what they do, lying. They get commission. It’s like our credit being wheeled and dealed. Even financial aid lies. Stipend loans come in two months before you can touch them. They collect interest off off so many people. Sad. They advertise and give freebies for references. It only keeps growing. If I knew then what I do now. I am in too deep and have to finish. Pray I pass the boards. (I will do it on my own) It could all be done online with the exception of clinicals, and even those are usually signed off without procedure. So many materials included with tuition are unnecessary and we should have gotten laptops as the Dayton Campus does. Too many things to cover them all…pathetic for-profit school.
I have worked for Miami-Jacobs Career College for going on 3 years and I have to say that the staff and faculty do care about the success of the students and graduates. Last year (2008/2008) the Dayton and Troy campus accomplished over 90 % placement of over 200 graduates (Dayton) and 196 (Troy). I have to say that I am honored and blessed to be a part of such an amazing organization.
Miami-jacobs came wrapped up in such a neat little package. It was presented to me on a silver plate adorned with promises. None of them have been fulfilled. I am only in my 2nd session as an LPN student and I have been fed up since day 1.
They have switched our instructors around at least 5 times.
They put too many people in our class (15) to begin with, so they had to send half of the students to do their clinicals and labs at a different campus because they wanted to sell those seats.
The classes are impossible to fail. For some reason “I didn’t feel like doing it” is an acceptable excuse for not turning in homework.
They don’t want anyone to quit the program or to be removed from it, so they are constantly making exceptions for absences and tardies.
Our class was assigned to do a presentation for a group of potential students, eating up the lab time we had on our last day before clinicals so we could persuade new money to come into the school. This consisted of making posters with marker like kindergartners.
All in all, they really do treat you like 3rd graders. I’m not sure what kind of knowledge I’m going to be equipped with, or who would hire me once I get out. All I know is that I’m trying to self teach as much as I can and crossing my fingers that it will be enough.
DO NOT GO TO MIAMI-JACOBS.
I HATE MJCC. I will say that the one teacher who made class stimulating, Ms. Peck, they pretty much worked to the bone. She had to go elsewhere for health reasons. We were constantly losing or being switched on Instructors. I didn’t really do my research on other schools, I, like alot of other students, was in a hurry to get into a program. Ms. Jean is pretty interesting and Ms. Hasseman takes some definite getting used to, but you can’t make the Curriculum into what it isn’t. There can be alot of blatant abuse between the Nursing Students, which the instructors do nothing to quell. I’m talking about full grown women hurling insults across the classroom everytime someone who isn’t in their clique asks a question. It’s like High School, but worse. It’s like it in all the Nursing Classes, but it’s glossed over to new students. “We have our issues, but we’re a family now.” No, they teach you that Nurses eat their own and that’s what everyone seems to live by there. It’s encouraged. Even the “Best Friends” of girls all snipe each other with horrible gossip when separated. It’s awful and uncomfortable. The motto of the School seems to be, “But you dont really need to know that,” or “But we dont have time to go over that.” Pharmacology consists of Outlining a HUGE book that is already an outline. People do it on auto pilot to just get it done, because even a quarter isn’t long enough to do it properly. I understand having alot of homework in an accelerated course, but doing workbooks of word searches and fill in the blanks, outlining outlines just so the Teacher feels like she’s given you enough to do and getting berated because your teacher is using a different text book than you, but doesnt want to allow you to take notes is frustrating. The whole class has to share what bits and pieces they got just to get notes together that make sense. On top of it, there’s been several times when our teacher is late or stepped out for an hour or two. But she wont hesistate to lock you out for being 2 minutes late. I wouldn’t reccommend this program. I’m lucky to have the time to do the stupid amounts of busy work, granted, I’d like to actually be LEARNING something from my homework, but if I had a young family, I would say, don’t bother. Actually, I say don’t bother with MJCC anyway. Like the others said, you’re just a Dollar Sign. They’re talking about starting an LPN to RN program, but they won’t be getting any more of my Money. I’ll be going somewhere else for my RN. They aren’t training Nurses, they’re training pill-passing Aides, and that scares the hell out of me.
Please check out my blog about Miami-Jacobs at http://www.whyitmatters.org/2009/04/miami-jacobs-career-college-just-what.html to see a LOT of complaints and eye openers about this school. Any of you may contact me at the email above or at 727-638-2178. The one year anniversary of my vow to bring this school to the attention of the public and prospective students is here. Let’s work together to do just that. Take a look at some of the comments and see for yourself. I also urge you all to make your grievances heard by contacting the Ohio Board of Career Colleges at http://scr.ohio.gov/ConsumerInformation/FilingaComplaint/tabid/68/Default.aspx The Ohio Board of Career Colleges was just at Miami-Jacobs Dayton Campus two weeks ago on Friday to check out complaints in the Practical Nursing program. This is a great time to add your complaints. The only reason they get a star in my book on this review is because it is required!
Hey Connie, I am still \”waiteing\” on that story about Darlene Waite. When do you think you can post that story?
MJCC sucks I have never been more depressed in my life. They have changed the cirriculum 4 times so far! My class and I have signed 5 different handbooks and 3 alone are from this quarter which is my 3rd. I agree Ms. Peck was the hardest working teacher at the springboro campus she actually cared about us being successful. My desire to be a nurse is still there but when you have instructors basically calling you dumb for failing a test that THEY DID NOT EVEN PREPARE you for is rude. We get talked to like we are crazy and I feel like we are getting set up to fail I advise whoever reads this please go someplace else
miami jacobs is a JOKE!!! thay dont teach you a damn thing you have to teach yourself and you cant teach yourself nursing if your not a nurse come on for real!!! we are in a computer lab learning about babys now how the hell am i or anyone for that matter going to learn anything. they dont have enough class rooms for all the classes and to tell you the truth i havent learned anything since the first quarter, DONT GO TO MIAMI JACOBS its a waiste of your time, money, and your life
MJCC is a complete JOKE!!! their only about the money. They don’t have room for the students that they already have, and yet the except new students every five in a half weeks. They teach from books that we don’t have your lucky to keep the same instructor for a class. They do have ATI which is good though they don’t teach from it and they answers are completely different from what our other books say. Now right before my 3rd Quarter started they said i have to pass ATI with a level 2 and if i fail i have to repeat the quarter even if i have an A in that class. I didn’t sign up for that to be a part of my curricum and for it to take effect on me in my third quarter isn’t right. The reason we have to pass with a level two now is cause there numbers are low on students sitting for the N-CLEX. If you don’t do good then they say pretty much your not studying and its all your fault when i know i study cause i want to be a nurse. They just set you up for failure all the way around. Maybe if they weren’t so greedy and get the dollars signs out of there heads they would teach us. Even if i do graudate from this program i don’t know if i would work as a nurse or go to another school cause i feel like i haven’t really learned anything. And i really don’t want to start over and i’m already out to much money. I still want to be a nurse but feel like its not going to happen. All I do is teach myself and i don’t think i know how to teach my self nursing. Anyone reading this i would suggest a different school like Hondros or even a university any where but here. The rating on here isn’t right either i wouldnt even give them one star on any of them
Faith,Darlene,Angela,Brandy,Shella,Kari and Jackie have you ever had to apply for unemployment?Looks like you may have to learn how within the next 6-12 months!!Now how do you feel about all the dirt you have done to students past and present and you have to know the media is going to contact students for their stories especially the ones that you have done wrong,they have a way of finding out who they are and you can best believe those students whom you have hurt are going to come out of the woodworks,I know for a fact that some of the students have already contacted Dave Larsons(D.D.N.) CHANNEL 7,8 AND 2.Getting ready to really heat up.
The best and honest instructor they have at the Dayton Campus is Ms.Benetta,she may tweak your nerves but you know she will not do anything illegal and treats us like we are adults,She plays by the book and isn’t that what they as instructors are supposed to do!Shame on you Shella Baker for forging student names at clinicals,you know the boards know about that don’t you!!!A whole lot of stuff is known to the boards and the local media and trust me on this,it is all going to come out.And you thought the Dayton Campus were the only ones writing the boards.Next thing that’s going to be exposed is the financial aid department,quess who is preparing to investigate that? The U.S.Dept.of JusticeBe scared,be very scared.I really do feel sorry for you,I really do.I too had to check at least one star,though we all know they don’t deserve even that.
These comments about Miami-Jacobs bring back memories. I was
a student there 25 years ago and it was every bit as sleazy
then as it seems to be today. One of their practices was
charging students for an internship program – that did not exist.
I can only hope that Miami-Jacobs will finally go out of business.
The community will be well rid of it.
To Tonya Dyer\’s post above: Maybe you are one of the good one\’s Tonya, maybe even someone who really cares for the students! But, please don\’t pretend that Miami Jacobs as a whole is the same way. I am familiar with the Dayton campus and I don\’t understand why all the good people they bring on seem to leave? There have been quite a few instructors just since I started in 2009 come and go. I also have friends who have graduated say the Angela Martin did NOTHING for them in finding a job and most places they apply to don\’t even call them because of Miami Jacobs on their resume! I thought they finally did something right when they hired Greg Hower in Career Services. He was already helping me with employment and I haven\’t graduated yet. Plus he cared, he was fun, and really knew his stuff in seminars. Now he is gone too and I heard he was fired for not doing things like Angela! That\’s a joke, she doesn\’t even care about us! Does anyone out there feel like me?
Faith Mitchell is the biggest liar too
There Lpn program is nothing but a bunch of BS! Stay away from this school.. even if you dont do your homework and fail teh tests they will still push you through, they just want all your money thats it! I was promised the world when I started there great teacher, great clinical sites, I never had a great clinical site we were always stuck in nursing homes doing nothing but wiping ass\’ just doing STNA work.. thats not what I was going to school for. We did not get to do IV\’s,cath,and only got one med pass! Most of us did not get a peds,OB,or MRDD rotation but where told to sign off on them. One quarter for clinicals we sat in the computer lab and did computer work for 6 weeks because they couldnt find and sites for us! The only great teacher from there was Melanie Hail she was Great! Besides that you learned nothing at all! Diane cook is nothing but a fluke, benetta did nothing but walk around with her head up her ass and never knew what was going on.. finacial aid hold your money for forever before you can touch it. Stay far away from here i am loving what is happening right now all of you are getting back what you did to your students I hope the nusing board does away with you!! You are taking honest peoples money and lying to them, you dont even deserve a 1 on this rating scale.
Here is the corporate site for Miami-Jacobs: http://www.deltaed.com/miamiJacobs.php, which contains their phone number for the few students that don’t already have it.
I personally know of several instructors that were not qualified to teach classes, and the administration of MJ knew they were not qualified to teach the classes, but they taught the classes anyway. The administration of MJ will just tell students whatever the student wants to hear to get them to calm down and feel better. And all it is, is a bunch of BS, because they will tell the next student the complete opposite.
In Cincinnati, Mary Purcell was the campus director and for the most part she stayed in her office and very rarely interacted with the students. 90% of the students had no clue who she was.
*******************************TONYA DYER*****************************
WHAT TONYA DOESN’T TELL YOU ABOUT HOW THEY ACHIEVED SUCH A HIGH PLACEMENT RATE IS THE FACT THAT THEY HIRE THEIR OWN STUDENTS AT THE SERENITY DAY SPA AND SALONS THAT THE COLLEGE RUNS, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY THEY GET THAT HIGH OF A NUMBER. AND I GUESS THAT IS THE REASON THAT THEY HAVE EXPANDED THESE TO THEIR OTHER CAMPUSES. BUT THIS IS NOT FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT, JUST COUNTS AS PLACING A STUDENT AND HELPS THEIR NUMBERS OUT TO PROMOTE AND REEL IN NEW STUDENTS.
did you all watch the local news yesterday,this school is heading for where they need to be,OUT.
What Tony Dyer DOESN’T tell you is that A. she only has an ASSOCIATES degree and is supervising people with masters, JD’s, etc. and she’s the academic dean in sharonville! and B) the placement rate is a total lie! they do count students working at their own message clinics AND they count students who are ALREADY working in jobs when they graduate! jobs that mjcc have nothing to do with!! She also doesn’t tell you that staff is treated like shit, they cancel classes on students and don’t give it a second thought, and most of the admin aren’t qualified to run a car wash let alone a ‘college’. STAY AWAY!!!
Please stay away from this school. I just withdrew today after being lied to by financial aid. They “underestimated” my total out of pocket cost after I gave them my FAFSA results. My monthly payment went from $100 to $500. $500 A MONTH?! Who has that laying around?
Classes here are a joke. One class I was in was deplorable. The students were allowed to talk about drugs, sex, and drinking. One student even admitted to coming to class drunk once. The teacher? She laughed the entire time. Then she went and told one group of students that their choosen career field was a crock and that they should just “drop out now”.
Seriously, do not waste your time here. They sell you a perfect future but end up giving you heartache.
Breaking news: Tonya Dyer used a Wikipedia article in a meeting to explain what the word “plan” means to her program managers. A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! Can you imagine!!! LOLOLOLOL
Wow this is horrible to see all the upset people about MJCC. I am currently in the HIT program and I looked up on the web and MJCC was not on the list for being a credited school. I am worried as hell I am wasting 2 yrs of my life at this school. I also don’t understand how financial aid can tell someone sorry ur check has been sent back to the lender and then I call the lender and they tell me they have no record that my money was sent back. That pissed me off now I am trying to get an answer from someone so I can get my damn money. I also thought it was funny how I was called by MJCC to pick the check up on a Friday so I did and love and behold no check. I am tired of being ran around the bush and wish that the staff would quit holding my money back from me. I don’t understand why they are more concerned about the dollar then there sdtudents. Colleges I went to in the past have been all for the students. People be aware and do ur research before starting at MJCC. It is suppose to be changing live4s changing futures they weren’t kidding it will do both and you will be so stressed out in the long run and want to quit, but can’t bc credits don’t transfer so DO NOT BE LIKE ME AND STUCK LIKE CHUCK GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BESIDES MJCC~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you everyone for your posts! I have only gone through the admissions process and not started classes. Please, in the future explain which campus you are referring to so that future students can see the patterns. I was going to enroll at Springboro, for Business Management. Best of luck to you all in getting your justice!
Yep, the stars are there so this can be published!
Yup, I agree with everyone’s posts about MJCC-Sharonville – They are about as professional as my garbage man – And, you as a student, get treated like such a loser, having to attend all of these goofy required “finding a job” meetings, wearing a ridiculous uniform, and having to fill out surveys everyday for either “Teacher of the Month” award, silly band school colors or some other non-important issue – Is this what I have wasted $11,000 dollars on? I am worried that my credits won’t transfer, even though they said they would – but, even if they don’t, I won’t be going back there – no way -
I attended MJCC in 2007 recieved my degree in 2009,,,,,,still can’t find a job in my career. They say they will help you find a job that is a lie unlessd you are the pick of the litter. Since then I have relocated and planned to enroll into a state college but guess what you got it…my DAM credits don’t transfer so I have to start all over agin. what kind of #$^* is that?
Another thing that MJCC WON’T tell you is that they WILL NOT release your transcripts if you owe them money. I can’t go to another college to continue my education thanks to these jokers. If you’re thinking about attending, STOP.
And believe me, I wouldn’t even leave a rating for this if I could.
to whomever thinks i did anything to them they should check their facts and not me spreading my name around in a negative fashion. I helped every student that came to me including the one that posted that I forged something and sent it to the board of nursing, how awful is that to mess with someones lively hood. I really cant believe when you are good to people they turn around and throw you under the bus, absolutely unamerican. Im no longer working for MJ but Im very happy, the only thing I miss are the students that actually are thankful for what they recieved from me.
IM A STUDENT AT MIAMI JACOBS RIGHT NOW. AT THE COLUMBUS LOCATION AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE ALL YALL ARE COMING FROM. WE ARE BEING SCAMMED OUT OF OUR MONEY. THEY ADDED A EXTRA 400 DOLLARS ONTO OUR FINICAL AID ACCOUNT AND THEY TOLD US WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT! WE ARE PAYING OVER 25,000 DOLLARS JUST TO GO THERE! STUDENTS AT MY SCHOOL ARE ALSO COMPLAINING ABOUT WE NOT BEING ABLE TO TRANSFER OUR CREDITS. THEY ARE SELLING US A DREAM AND IT NEEDS TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP! MY VOICE IS GOING TO BE HEARD BECAUSE NONE OF US NEED DON’T TO BE GOING THROUGH THIS! WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR FUTURES AND OUR RIGHTS!